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@ckth Way way way way wayyyyyyyyy cheaper. Most pre workouts have 10+ ingredients and cost $30-60 for a 20-30 day supply. I can buy every ingredient to a pre workout from a bulk store and build it for a fraction less. Then I grt to control dosages of ingredients. Or take out ones I don't like even.

@tork1369 Only 2 of those fall under that "chemical cocktail" part.