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@livingme7 counter argument, they can be a tool for people to see what others value highly. For example nearly everyone includes rdl or stifflegged on here. If i came here and saw this and i wasnt doing them i might say hmmm why is everyone loving those and i dont even try them. Now i do...

@godofreason im thinking 10-15 sets vs 20 these days, with the exception being back going upwards of 16-20 if you have less fatiguing things like lat prayers.