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@jeanvaljean To be fair, I've yet to actually pull over 800, I test 1RM about once a year and kinda botched the timing of my attempts this year. My 5, 10, 20, and 30 rep maxes all calculate to between 805-825 though. I've come pretty dang close to the pull though. Also the fittit mods don't lift.

@williamgoode Is it okay if a big lean shits on Jeff?

@nonuser Beginning of March, 3 months total. Honestly I think it would have been doable in 2. It slowed down in April before I added some cardio and I had two big refeeds in may besides the last one when I entered an online powerliting meet and over memorial day weekend when I went camping.

@gracesophia11 I also walk my dog 3 miles a day and work out 5 days a week. The second half of this cut I've had the time to add a second walk and/or 5k row each day, so activity levels are high as well.

@gracesophia11 End of my bulk this year End of my cut, from yesterday.

@gracesophia11 I can't say for sure, I take the approach of eating the same meals daily and adjusting as needed instead of actually counting, so I only have a rough idea of my intake. Ide say my bulk is ~4k a day tapering up throughout the year and my cut is ~3k. I don't ever reduce intake on...

@gracesophia11 Honestly if you bulk properly it's not really that different. Your surplus shouldn't be huge and you shouldn't ever get that fat. I bulk slowly for 9 months of the year then cut for 3. Moving forward I might cut that down to 2 because honestly that third month has proven to have...

@gracesophia11 8 weeks is very little time to see significant growth, unless you are a beginner. I think you're going to see better results from sticking to tried and true cycling periods of controlled surplus for growth and deficits to reduce fat. Trying to pull off both at once usually gets...

@great_depression I'm saving this as it's a far better articulation of my thoughts on the subject than anything I could or would want to write. Thanks for taking the time to write this up.