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@jermyn OP is 17 and sleeps 9-11 hours a night. And again, he’s only going to failure one day a week. Just doesn’t seem likely to me that overtraining is the culprit in this particular case.

@jermyn This doesn’t sound right. Three days a week is not what most would call high frequency and he’s only going to failure one of those days.

@landon13 Right -- I think I'd suggest going closer to failure on every set, regardless of how many reps it takes you to get there. The goal should be to hit a certain number of sets that come close to failure, not a certain number of total reps. Right now you're only getting close to failure...

@landon13 How close to failure do you come on your first set of 10, and how long do you rest in between sets?

@anon103 The connection between fatigue and injury is extremely well established, but ok.

@anon103 Well, OP didn’t do a lot of volume in either routine. But what I’m saying is that if someone were to equalize a more normal amount of volume across both routines, compressing all of it into a single day will mean training with higher levels of fatigue, which means a higher likelihood of...

@anon103 Yeah, my sense is that 7x would make you much less likely to get injured, because there would be so much less fatigue during each session.

@jermyn Don’t see why 2 vs 3 would matter if total volume is the same.

@youngdisciple1 If a small plate works, go for it, but it's just a proxy for lower calories. If you want a sure thing, cut out the middle man and just count them.

@youngdisciple1 This is fine, but it doesn’t matter if your calories are out of wack. You’re currently consuming enough energy to sustain 230 lbs of man meat—if you want to get down to 200 lbs you’ll need to consume less.