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@budzybudz There's a certain saturation limit you need to keep and 5g a day does it for pretty much everyone

@trustlove147 I've been following NCFit and love it. Don't have a bike or rower, but I make it work with subs.

@jomary Well I think you just answered yourself. No one's going to win natural

@bryher1980 I get your point. Someone on PEDs has to put in less work than someone natural, and someone natural probably isn't capable of training the same way as the drugged up people do. Saying "you still need to put in the work" takes away from the fact that it's not even possible without the...

@bryher1980 But you can't put in the work without the PEDs. One of the big differences drugs make is the ability to constantly recover and keep going.

@firsthandsemiuniversalist I wouldn't be too sorry for the rest of the competitors. It's not like they are clean either, they just haven't been caught