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@zfatu Ah ok yeah, you can learn it with a FG and then transition into a non-fg cross but it's harder for a few reasons although, totally possible. Just those couple of inches makes a huge difference not only because of the center of gravity, but because you're actually using different muscles...

@zfatu You're going to be (hopefully) doing a lot of drills and strength exercises before you even attempt an iron cross, so again, I'd strongly suggesting learning it the 'proper' way.

@fromgenesistorevelation I do agree with that, it's an extremely difficult skill to learn. But I wouldn't call it a 'real' iron cross if you're using a false grip.

@fromgenesistorevelation It's wrong in regards to proper technique. If I were learning, I wouldn't even train with a false grip. Bad habits are much easier to prevent than reverse.

@zfatu As long as your arms are straight in the hang or hold, false grip is allowed. At least when I was competing. That being said, you don't necessarily want to do a false grip on something like an iron cross because you're actually using the wrong muscles even though it's easier. And again...

@giangnt Oh certainly not. I sorta could do a shitty Maltese on floor because of training and drills for a rings Maltese. Which, admittedly, I never really got close to at all lol.

@giangnt I've trained a Japanese handstand from the splits but that's it. Floor malteses were a result of just training malteses.

@calo97 Congrats on the planche! It's not exactly an easy move, especially if you are doing straddle or straight body. Planches on rings are a lot harder because the thing holding you up, is not stable like on p. bars or floor. So your body, specifically your shoulders and chest have to do much...

@seangibbons You're totally right, but it's definitely not impossible. Especially if you're specifically training for the skill itself. Front levers are really hard, I could barely do those in my 'prime' lol.

@stonesoffire Depends on you. You did a great job describing the code of points and how routines are sequenced. However, I think for most people, the types of strength moves done by Olympians, collegiate and even J.O. gymnasts are much too advanced. Hell, most crossfitters I've met couldn't...

@stonesoffire Ex-gymnast here. Didn't do anything with it in college but I was Junior Olympic level 10 for four years. If anyone wants to talk to someone who trained as a gymnast, I'd be happy to share my experiences. (or just work out tips).