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@wingsofeagles2012 I never ran a 6-days/week routine. 4 is the most I've ever done. Might be worth a try, but my recovery is already shitty as it is.

@mac64 Agreed, whatever program I choose I'll make sure to have a dedicated arms day. Cheers.

@mommajulesberry Thank you, I've been doing the one you linked. I'll look into Geoffrey more and maybe run the bulk for 3 more months and then re-evaluate.

@taixiat I mean 8-12 range, which is OK compared to 20 reps and 5 sets like Jim Wengler's program. I don't think lowering the weight would be beneficial for growth? I still have 1-2 reps in tank after I finish a set.

@taixiat I am doing that if I have energy left. But when I do 5x 15-20 reps for triceps pushdowns, I do get elbow pain at night, so need some rest after that. This doesn't happen if I do heavier, lower rep sets and keep them to 3 sets per exercise.

@fireblaze Sounds like a plan, thanks!

@brodri91 Looking into Geoffrey Verity, I see Ravage 3x per week and 6x per week. Would on of those do the trick?

@fireblaze I am running this one - https://www.jimwendler.com/blogs/jimwendler-com/101075206-5-3-1-and-bodybuilding I ran other ones before with similar (lack of) results. Which one would you recommend?

@dawn16 Could be the case, I never had issues with growing chest but it could be just the extra fat making ot look bigger. Or genetics.

38 years old. I've been spinning my wheels more or less for years since I was a definition of skinny fat. I have pretty bad arms genetic as seen in the photo before I started lifting. I've been running a bulk since March and gained about 12 pounds. Should I continue bulk for a while or start...