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@vinod367 I used to like them a lot but I've definitely had much more success after dropping them in favour of more boring bodybuilding focused movements. Compared to a normal lat pulldown station Much more stable with no real core demands Much harder to cheat and helps force you into the...

@patdude832 You're suggesting training it 5x a week correct? From everything we know about the principles of hypertrophy training this is just silly.

@patdude832 Just bro science myths. There's no data to suggest they recover faster. The recovery is mostly down to fibre type, not size. Once a week isn't optimal but just spamming it every other day isn't optimal either. Hitting it 2x a week with enough volume and proper recovery just like...

@hteezy If you're lifts/reps are going up then you're gaining muscle, likely gaining muscle and not storing more fat in that area so it appears the same.

@tay796 He's very smart with growing his online business and being a cult leader, he's set the standard for how to rapdily grow a content platform. Unfortunately this is to the determent of the followers with clickbait and contrarian takes to stay relevant.

@livingme7 It was only 2-3 years ago I was on r / fitness and similar routines were still being treated like a requirement. This industry is all over the place with BS online.

@lovely_krystal86 GVS is an absolute gem and just gives tips based off his experience yet is still aware of the science. But also doesn't over rely on things the science says given the limitations. I've followed some of his "non-optimal" tips in the past like going back to the short rope for...

@paigek91 I think this is just asking for trouble long term. There's plenty of other reasons you need rest in addition to just muscle recovery such a tendons, joints etc that all get absolutely hammered during training. Super common for elbow pain with high frequency training. Also if you're...

@nbj486 When people blame genetics I find it's mostly things that can't be overcome for eg. Narrow Clavicles, wide hips, high biceps insertions etc. This is a limit on how aesthetic you can take a physique and why most pro bodybuilders are generally on the shorter side. I agree with your core...

@ray0174 Another big name in the content space putting out something that's going to cause controversy and get views. He's good at what he does. I like Jeff.

@tay796 Funny how almost ALL the top coaches end up training in a similar way to Joe Bennet (both science and practical with a nuanced approach) and none of them train like Dr Mike who is just a content creator. If I was looking for fitness advice and saw all the successful people doing one...

@livingme7 Yeah, the boring old basics don't sell. I think people should be aware that there is a coaching space and a content space, Mike is firmly in the content space.

@tom34 It's all nonsense, crazy that they got so popular. No pro bodybuilders (especially natural) are training this way (feel free to check). The guys like Joe Bennet (hypertrophy coach) and Nick Gloff that are taking pros to the stage are not doing any of this nonsense, they train 0-1 RIR...

@knowledgeisnotignorant Yes, this style of machine will be the absolute best you can do for chest development. It maximises ROM and stability, every other option has a downside in some way.

@4eyedfenix The volume isn't terrible but there are some bizare things like the exercise order, 2 overhead presses, 5 sets of deadlifts at the end. I just noticed you're doing squats too, if you want to do Full body you have to be really careful with the volume. I'd recommend other splits first...

@4eyedfenix I was about to start listing all the things wrong with this and some improvements but honestly this is a mess dude. Wouldn't even know where to start. Please just scrap this and start over from a basic upper program then start tailoring it after a few sessions.

@sofy Per muscle group. So on a Push day a general recommendation would be something like 4 - 6 sets of chest, 4 - 6 shoulders and 4 - 6 triceps. There's a fair bit of overlap so 6 chest, 4 direct shoulders (mostly lateral delts) and 4 direct triceps would be ideal.

@godofreason Yeah these programs aren't good. There is a massive amount of misinformation with fitness and because everything works to some degree people get convinced bad training methods are correct. A lot of what we know about volume, junk volume and intensity etc. is actually pretty new...

@setst777 Doing Biceps on Push day and Triceps on Pull Day. No redundancy (mid + lengthened for biceps, Long bias then medial/lateral bias for triceps) Then like every muscle group, 2 sets to 0-1 RIR per exercise, 3 minute rests, 2 per workout for each.

@jgeral0172 Tbh I don't see it on this sub. I see this mostly from the content creation industry (which is almost the entirety of youtube fitness and some social media). They need to jump on these trends to stay relevant and sell you things since the boring old basics don't make money. It's a...