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    What are the dumbest things you’ve heard about a “vegan diet”?

    @blindly28 Someone I know once referred to a vegan diet as a "highly restrictive regimen" and said that they couldn't do it because it was already so hard to shop/cook for oneself without extra burdens. I'm a very lazy person and just don't find vegan eating difficult or burdensome. In some...
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    @dawn16 Yes, I do know all this, but my point is other people just have more energy reserves than I do, and that's ok. Thank you for your thoughts!
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    @dawn16 I might be giving the wrong impression. If I get 7.5 hours of solid sleep, don't eat a giant meal, have a fairly happy day, and don't exercise, I have what I'd consider decent levels of energy for about 17 hours and then I go to sleep. The first hour of waking up is quite groggy, but the...
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    @dawn16 I've trained for years, and that also hasn't had much of a noticeable effect on my energy levels. I think I'm just not wired that way.
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    @deathbeforedishonor9453 I'm open to a variety of possible facts regarding dietary changes. One is that different people have somewhat different "best diets" based on their genes (I mean, we know this is true with things like celiac disease or phenylketonuria). Perhaps there is something similar...
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    @kidkaos2 I salute that statement. I feel many people on Reddit make these strong, unhesitant statements about how they felt years before and I can't see how it is possible do know that with much certainty without a fairly heroic effort (like using some standardized system of scoring and...
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    I want the vegan protein holy book

    @leudoca The Vegan Proteinbible? ;D (I know what you meant.)
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    @endofdayz I don't think I have any data on my blood panels before the dietary change. My last total cholesterol, from 2017, was 110, and my HDL (53) was higher than my LDL (47). Those are fairly weird numbers, as far as I understand. I don't know if I have some genetic predisposition to very...
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    @bettylloyd I feel similarly. I also do it for ethical reasons regarding the environment (both for its own sake and for impact on communities, such as water contamination) and animal industry workers. It's just not a good model at all.
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    80g/day of protein on average?

    @andi777777 Thanks, this is helpful. Although I think that many athletes (non-vegans, e.g.) go overboard with protein beyond their bodies' abilities to use it, I am starting to get the sense that I'm just not eating enough protein. Is your 5'8/200 mostly on the muscular side? If so you must be...
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    @fujimaki_toru Oh, sure, a significant number of people think one needs animal protein or the nutrients in eggs and so forth, or that soy isoflavones will feminize a man or increase risk of breast cancer in a woman. I'm surprised you haven't encountered this on Reddit before--it's widespread. If...
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    80g/day of protein on average?

    @dawn16 Yeah, the only issue with beans, pasta, quinoa, etc is that they all have a lot of carbs too so though you're saving on $$ you're spending on calories. It's like that software vendor joke--fast, cheap, or good: Pick any two. In this case, it's like Cheap, Low-Cal, High Protein: Pick...
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    80g/day of protein on average?

    @dawn16 Thanks. It seems like it might be very challenging to be a) vegan, b) losing weight, and c) getting enough protein for optimal muscle growth--or even maintenance--without d) things getting expensive due to the need for vegan protein powder or just more tofu or whatever. Also cuts into my...
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    80g/day of protein on average?

    I'm losing weight and find a good diet for me has me coming in at 75g of protein (mostly tofu) on Day A and 88g of protein on Day B, and these just alternate. Day B is the harder exercise day, so I eat a little more protein. This averages to 81g, so let's call it 80g a day. I'm M49, 163 lbs...
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    I want the vegan protein holy book

    @dubschanging Thanks. We just hold different views here. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
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    Three years vegan. I feel about the same as I did when I wasn't a vegan

    Just because I like the full range of responses to be represented online, here's a somewhat different n=1 datapoint. Prior to Dec 2016, I ate any type of food other than mammal meat. Since then, I have been a vegan. As far as I can recall, I feel roughly the same as I did back then. The two...
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    I want the vegan protein holy book

    @dubschanging As I said in my post, I'm doing 300 days in the gym.
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    I want the vegan protein holy book

    @justaguy1212 Great, you can link me to the studies that establish that?
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    I want the vegan protein holy book

    @yeshuabless1 I don't think you're reading what I wrote. What about what I wrote made it look like I am after anything easy? I'm in the gym 300 days a year and am trying to math the hell out of this. That said, would it be bizarre, in a world in which the most unbelievable amount of information...
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    I want the vegan protein holy book

    @yeshuabless1 There could be, easily. And Google is so not your friend here.
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