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@thebelovedofgod It doesn’t take “significantly” longer though, thats incorrect. The research shows its like a 10-20% difference, and narrows quickly as you gain. If science isnt your thing just take a look at the real world, plenty of guys get big very quickly off of once per week frequency...

@thebelovedofgod You can still get 8-10 sets in a session which is very close to the optimal range. Plus, muscle growth is logarithmic and the gap between optimal and suboptimal narrows quickly over time. In the medium to long term, you end up at the same spot. Possibly even quicker on a 3 day...

@thebelovedofgod Periodization doesn’t solve the problem. Still taxing on the joints regardless, and has the potential for overuse. Also a light day isnt doing shit for growth, so you’re basically only getting good stimulus on the heavy day and maybe a little on the medium day. At that point...

@thebelovedofgod Agree to disagree at the upper level intermediate and advanced level. Benching 275-315 on monday and then coming in again on wednesday to do anything serious for chest is laughable. Its hard enough to survive even twice a week for those trainees, 3 is complete overkill.

@thebelovedofgod Ive tried both, when you’re big and have been training awhile hitting every muscle 3 days a week is difficult and hard on your joints. 3 day PPL gave me far better results.

@dtik9 You can usually get away with a lot of stuff in your 30s still before it really starts to catch up with you in your 40s, 50s and beyond

@dtik9 Not surprising at all giving the split you’re doing - your shoulder girdle is getting hammered to hell almost 6 days a week. Recipe for shoulder problems Read anything from lyle mcdonald on split sequencing to pick something which is more shoulder-friendly...

@lamporful Bingo. I always blow up on upper lower. It leaves more time for recovery of the joints and CNS in comparison to PPL. While still getting nice frequency and adequate volume. Key is to train with intensity since you’re doing less.

@don720 Amen. I’ve spent a year cutting from getting too fat. It’s a huge pain in the ass. You tend to always have more fat than you think if you’re bear mode.

@darksoul999 Its an amazing split. So many people burn out or suffer joint issues on 6 day PPL. Ive found 3 days to be the sweet spot for long term sustainability. Ben howard trains like this.