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@dawn16 Thx for the quality post man I was thinking to try out juggernaut method and I still may I'm looking for my next program after this last cycle of BBB and finish this cut. You are right about it being individual and probably time to move away from real beginning program. For example...

@samamph Hah ya Im not mad just playing.. I didn't have a gut until I tried to break through 220.. and then it all hit at once. Kind of weird I got over 20% but not too crazy. It's coming off now though I'm one of those who finds cutting easier and I've always been pretty lean.. I have never...

@samamph U saying I'm fat?

@hopefulinthebayarea That's a program I've heard a lot about. I'll save your reply and look into it when I start back in my slow bulk

@hopefulinthebayarea Thanks good to hear I thought I would've been farther along but u r right it is probably on track for natural

@andrewm12 Bench started out ahead from when I used to just do upper body.. prolly should squat 3x rather than bench but genetically I have a small chest and was working on aesthetic s some

I have been on and off big into weightlifting since my early 20's and always did stay active even if it wasn't consist over that long period of time. Well I got completely clean and sober March of last year and basically got a lot of stuff in order. Fitness wise, I have never been so serious...