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@mary_woods I linked to the McDonald model citation in my original post, here is a direct link: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html. It was written by Lyle McDonald, who has written multiple books on muscle gain and is considered an expert. The...

@mary_woods I completely agree that women can become pretty muscular without steroids. However it is impossible to go from Julia Vins's 2011 build to her 2014 build without steroids. Using the McDonald Model, you can see that in the first year of training, a female can gain 10-12 lbs of lean...