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    Body transformation 4 years

    @drewz Very nice work mate! A great example of what commitment can achieve. I fully believe you are natty.
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    Is 3 hours in the gym too much?

    @asdtmr12 Dorian Yates - 45mins Jay Cutler - 4hrs People making statements about workout length are negating the huge variance in the top pros, natty or not. You have to experiment, and find what’s right for you.
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    Is 3 hours in the gym too much?

    @cjcarrie No. I’m talking about FACTS. You said OP was working out for too long. I proved that some top athletes work out for more than 3 hours. You have not clue one about OPs genetics or age. You’ve simply applied your own narrow subjective view to his question. You made a definitive...
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    Is 3 hours in the gym too much?

    @dawn16 Nope. 100% natty.
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    Is 3 hours in the gym too much?

    @cjcarrie Jay Cutler used to have 4 hours in the gym man. Does he know what he’s talking about?
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    Made absolutely no progress in the past year when I had pretty much everything dialed in, starting to lose motivation..

    @wmsgil Quit your jibber jabber, you look fucking great! I think you could do with a good 'ol healthy bulk. Put on the pounds and gain more mass, then cut down.
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    Most Trainees Lift Too Far Away From Failure (discussion)

    @thebelovedofgod This is the other side of ego lifting for me. I see a lot of people in the gym that are afraid to be seen to fail.
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    Am I missing out if I dont squat ?

    @saisigh Only bench, at about 75%. But rarely, mostly use DBs at
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    Am I missing out if I dont squat ?

    @jayaraj I gave up on lifting heavy in all three B, SQ, and DL 5 years ago and it's been great for longevity, haven't been snapped up in all that time. You can easily find substitutes.
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    What is the point of keep training as a natural if you have been training for 2 years ?

    @jlchoa All good my friend, it's OK to be down sometimes, but it's how you kick on and prevail that counts! I've never regretted going to the gym, I've often regretted not going.
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    M 33 6’4 (193) 210 (95.25) in the midst of a cut after bulking from 200-220 (oct-feb)

    @len1973 This is bang on IMO...I would say stay on bulk for a year, at 6'4 with that platform of lean muscle I think he has a lot of room for lean growth.
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    What is the point of keep training as a natural if you have been training for 2 years ?

    @jlchoa You've got to be patient my friend, you're going to need to put in 6+ years before you see your full potential. Even then there are gains on the table, they just come much more hard fought! Switch up your program, keep it fresh, new movements keep things interesting. I found learning to...
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