@cybernetic From expereience, too much volume and you will make little to no gains as a natural, there is a sweet spot with volume and calorie intake...you need to find yours
@trinitas1198 Wow 8% is pretty incredible though, how long does it take you to bulk back up after that? Bulking is so hard, im currently on one now and im so tired of cooking and eating... dont even know what to eat anymore its all so blah
@trinitas1198 Do people really go from 200 down to 160? Thats gotta be drastic as fuck, id be way too afraid of losing gains dropping 40lbs in that weight range