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@stars_andwonder OMG stop, he's just trying to scare people away from other people's programming. Nobody who's ever competed in weightlifting and used kettlebells genuinely believes snatching 2 kb's is more dangerous than heavy OHS or full barbell snatches.

@jwilson757 Bingo, thank you! Of course you're getting downvoted.

@loves2readya That seems to be the trend among the strongest people participating in this thread! I've seen your lifting videos btw, very impressive!

@rabbie77 I've coached the barbell snatch and it's so potentially dangerous and technical that we start them out with a PVC pipe and they have to earn their way to an empty bar! They even practiced bailing so the barbell doesn't fall on their head during a failed attempt.

@khshox My experience coaching is the exact opposite. People know whether they're athletic or not, and the ones who say they aren't are overly cautious and afraid of injury even though it turns out they're usually *more* capable than they think. It's my favorite thing about coaching!

@raykay He never mentions perils of the dual snatch downswing. He says the dangerous part is 2 kb's overhead crashing potentially crashing onto someone's skull. I just don't see how anyone with a modicum of coordination and mobility could possibly be at risk of that.

@jwilson757 Overhead presses were banned by my tennis trainer!

@patim22 I Rx most but Manion proved too much for me with an empty bar. Next time is air squats!

@kexonplastic Manion is even worse!

@sharita3737 This does not sound right. I was a ranked tennis player in my country and a lot of what I am seeing in these videos, like being against lunges and single leg lifts, is contrary to tennis strength programs. Are you sure he is training elite athletes? What I see him saying seems more...

I just saw a YouTube video of Dan John angrily telling someone during a Q/A to Go ahead and do dual snatches if you want the kettlebells to fall on your skull, but I'm an academic so I actually need my brain. Anyone know his deal? He sounds a lot more like an angry jerk than any academic who I...