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@paparazi257 (Weekly volume equated, HARD training assumed) Training more days per week (5-6) with shorter sessions vs less days (3-4) with longer sessions for the experienced lifter? I think you could make an argunent for either side being better for recovery/growth, what do you think? In...

@purposedgrace Thanks for the response. Definitely have me considering trying to add a couple sets here n there to see how I manage again. I wanna keep this 0-1 RIR intensity b/c I feel its important. And my plan to add work capacity is: 1) Some cardiovascular work to get the heart pumping...

@purposedgrace You do have me questioning my volume relative to my experience BUT I feel like the 'high volume for experienced lifters' concept is a little overblown. Ive been training 15 years and the most volume Ive ever done in a week per muscle was 12 sets (controlled but hard lifting with a...

@needheaven Ok thanks. Ill admit I rarely change training variables like volume. Once im at a certain amount i keep it stagnant forever. I only do 6-8 sets per muscle per week right now but each set is high intensity. As for the running I have some concerns with it. The high impact joint...

@trustinghim2015 I could be wrong but this idea gives me some concerns b/c I feel like itll interfere with my recovery from my real training sessions. Since it could almost be considered junk vol. And more standard forms of cardio (bike, run, swim, elliptical, play a sport) wont interfere as much.

@trumpeter2 That seems simple enough. I assume at an intensity to actually get the heart pumping to cause a positive adaptation. Think theres an advantage to including other types of modalities as well (run, bike, play a sport, etc)

@bronsontaur Definitely thinking about the 2nd and 3rd ones after reading this thread. Hard compound sets in the 10-15 range murder me which probably means thats what I need more of. And now that I joined a 2nd gym (which is always empty unlike my other one) supersets are a possibility. Rest...

@trulea Cardios not just a tool for fat loss. Theres a whole nother aspect of it for work capacity. Conditioning for cardiovascular health, youll be able to handle and recover from more bodybuilding work. I was good on this in my earlier years (started in 2007) but have been slacking on it for...

@dawn16 Those are some great points! Thanks. Looking into this whole work capacity thing the last couple days I saw the shorter rest time point multiple times. In an attempt to avoid short rest times I always found myself taking much longer rest than I probably should be. You offered a great...

@sisi Definitely gonna start doing more of the "cardio" options bc i feel like thats a direct route to it but the "conditioning" ones I have concerns. I feel like theyll negatively affect my recovery from my real weight training sessions. For example a barbell complex could almost be classified...

@purposedgrace You def have me questioning my volume relative to my experience BUT I feel like the 'high volume for experienced lifters' concept is a little overblown. Ive been training 15 years and the most volume Ive ever done in a week per muscle was 12 sets (controlled but hard lifting with...

@beautifullycreated Yea I feel ya. I started training at the end of 2007. I currently only do 6-8 sets per muscle per week. Most i ever did was 12 which I spent a long time doing but I was leaving a little more in the tank (and i couldnt believe people could handle more than ~12). Now each set...

@haydenreed Thanks for the links! Will read all of this soon.

Despite building a good lean physique over 10+ years Ive noticed that I cant handle much volume/work. Hell I feel zapped after a couple exercises sometimes (I take my deloads dont worry). And it makes sense b/c I rarely do cardiovasular work other than walking around at work and training. What...

@ravensfan Lol Ill be honest it does depend on the person. Some look much better in a bulked state, some look much better in a lean state, and of course you have plenty inbetween. Im definitely one of the people that look much better leaner. I noticed with myself and others have told me this too

@alamostthere Ive followed Jeff for 10 years. Hes definitely a high-responder to training and is genetically blessed. I feel like that might be way he does so well with such low volumes. I dont think low volumes are bad either bc Im fairly low myself. I could be talking out of my ass here but...

@bluemoonwailer Do you think its just a time thing? Theoretically a longer bulk requires a longer cut (assuming you stay in a surplus throughout and dont maintain a higher BW), which means total time bulking/cutting should be similar in both scenarios. But many believe you have to get relatively...

@nathanpin77122 I guess youre right that there arent many downsides to it. In general I dont like going off course which is why I dont very often. Honestly I never liked Israetels RP meso-progression style. It starts out too easy and ends too difficult. I feel like the general masses have gotten...

@nathanpin77122 Ill be honest I havent experimented as much as I should have over the years. I stay in a pretty narrow window of parameters based on how much work I know I can handle. The 2 volume/intensity set ups I mentioned Ive been doing for the last 8 years of my 14. Theres only so much...

@pinetowntree Thats good to hear and I hope it to be true that one isnt shortchanging themselves over time by doing it this way. I typically will bulk for 8-9 months and cut for 3. Basically trying to maximize my progress while still looking good/lean in the warmer months when Im at parties, on...