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@bingsta I wouldnt do more than 6 personally. I would pick 5 and focus on the quality of those.

@dawn16 Those early routines were also what both of them used to build on their own physiques - we know they worked. The later routines they published were just them theorizing way past their prime and we never actually saw someone gain success with them.

@nicoleb07 I'm not interested in HIT specifically. I used it as an example for unconventional training methods.

@leena2016 The incline one is very interesting. Some people swear by it and for others (including myself) it didn't do anything at all in terms of hypertrophy.

@dawn16 Yep, good one! He was always nice enough to answer questions on youtube and instagram as well. RIP

I'm interested in any kind of unconventional methods/training programs that bodybuilders have been using through the years. If you know of such methods, feel free to link or tell us about it. A few examples: Dorian Yates - HIT (Blood & Guts) Eugen Sandow - light dumbbell system Frank Caltas...

@grace_chaser JP definitely don't warm up with sets where he goes to 4-2 RIR and he specifically points out that you shouldn't as those are fatiguing. He might do singles with his working weight just to get a feel for it before he pulls the trigger but thats it.

@claudiabrinkmann1566 Exept noone said anything about 6 sets in one week.

@jamierite74 I've been down that HIT rabbit hole, definitely felt like it hindered progress after a few weeks. As natural bodybuilders we can only increase the weight so much before we plateau. JP can just up his dose and his strength will keep increasing, most people don't have that luxury. It...

@jamierite74 Well if you're going to count sets by movement patterns then yes it will become much higher on paper. But I personally don't like that way of counting sets, and I know most people don't count it like that. That would be like doing 3 sets of curls and saying I do 20+ sets for biceps...

@jamierite74 Gvs doesn't do 20+sets most of the time. It's usually 16ish for chest and shoulders and 25-30 for back but thats lats and upperback counted together. For the rest hes doing 10-14 sets. Just get his latest book, it's all explained in there. Lastly, judging by his distance running...

@solokwa I agree with that post. I don't see why anyone would need more than 6 working sets for a single muscle group in one session. Not that you can't do more but it's just not worth it if you're hitting the same muscle again that week.

@sunflower39 You need to figure it out yourself, the "science" has A LOT of flaws. Use it as a general guideline but don't get into the details as that will send you down a rabbit hole. The bodybuilders before our generation had no science helping them and they were just fine. We have every...

@leticia1995 With rest days in between. You can switch the order too, that was just an example.

@jlrodriguez PPL with separate arm day is somewhat popular for bodybuilders. You basically skip arm exercises on the push and pull days and do them separately. I guess that would be more of a 1. chest/delts 2. back 3. legs 4. arms split but yeah you get the point. I used it for a while and liked...

@deejayjr " 10-20 sets is the general recommendation" I don't think you've read a single study released in the past 5 years. Those are 2017-2018 recommendations that have been debunked after they figured out that you require less volume if you use longer rest times.

@dawn16 Thats an absurd amount of volume. How the hell did you come to the conclusion that you needed that much? You're way overtraining if you're still doing that amount. Professional bodybuilders on steroids are doing 20 sets per week. Try cutting down to 10-15 sets as the literature suggests...

@kagenonikki I like Doug. I don't think all his exercises are "the best ones" you can do but he made me rethink my exercise selection and I incorporated some of his exercises into my workouts.