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@power1 I'm generally a fan. I bought it at launch almost a decade ago and wasn't strong enough to actually do it. Since then I've run it 4 or 5 times, only getting through phase 1 or phase 2. It does what it says on the box, and I had decent hypertrophy results from it. As a criticism I think...

@power1 It's sorta like "Body By Rings" in book form. If your primary interest is in bodybuilding via rings, I think it is an absolutely outstanding piece of literature.

@fletch22 If nothing else, VWC is a fun exercise in seeing how deep into the pain cave you can get. You don't get anything like that from A+A style programs.

@7seals Basically any Geoff Neupert program. I haven't run it yet but "Easy Muscle" seems like it hits that sweet spot of the big movements with a reasonable training frequency.

@ai1226 Same over here.