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@sergyi yeah i hear you. obviously if you still can, you should. i’ve found (42M) the pain vs reward/benefit isn’t there for me anymore, wish it wasn’t that way. both my father and grandfather had double shoulder replacements so i’m trying to avoid that as long as i can lol

@goodbookguy are we talking flat barbell bench ? i went to flat dumbbell press and incline barbell press around 35 years old and have much less elbow and shoulder pain these days. heavy flat barbell press is a young man’s game.