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@gilcimarlp not only that but it may be impossible to get as big as someone with good genes, like ever. and if it is possible then u can also have bad insertions meaning your muscles will look ugly

@mdnavygirl genetics not only determine how fast youre gonna get big or strong but also how u will look. we can be the same weight height bodyfat and if i have a full chest insertion, low inserted back long biceps and triceps wide arm bones wide clavicles and narrow hips u have the opposite i...

@star440 true that but then theres people who dont sleep do drugs and such live off of cigarettes and s progress. but ure also saying "except proportions bone size and insertion sites" which are cruical for aesthethics and strength" the reason im actually learning scientific optimal training is...

@nbj486 genetics are the single most important thing for bodybuilding becuase u cant control it while u can always learn to train or diet better. Genetics can give you advantages such as more testosterone and free testosterone more igf1 or hgh in general lower myoststin(i think thats a...

@marisela not true the last part. i know a guy whos similar weight to me (he is lighter but hes also like 4-5cm shorter) he has perfect 8 pack big and broad chest and back while Ive got a 4 pack and a half a big ass chest gap short biceps triceps delts any muscle you can think of is short (i...

@righteousbyfaith oversize is the way unless you have narrow clavicles and wide hips