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@johnc101 I do realize that I need to commit to a bulk at some point. I just hate how chubby my face looks, even when I was ten pounds lighter it was still pretty pudgy. If I bulk to 180 I’m going to probably have a triple chin or something. I want I get lean enough that I can bulk slowly and...

@benjaminthewolf I’ve had a feeling I have too much volume, but I don’t know what exercises to cut out. Especially when it comes to chest in arms.

@seitsem%C3%A4n Seems interesting, Can you explain why you hit arm muscles and legs on the same days?

@seitsem%C3%A4n None of the programs I’ve looked too have excited me, they’re all low when it comes to volume and variety and usually don’t run 5 days. They’re usually either 3-4 or 6-7 days a week.

I’ve been running PHAT with some modifications for years now and I haven’t progressed much with my upper body lifts. My bench hasn’t gone up in months even after starting a bulk. My overhead press is also less than half my bench. I’ve made some progress on my deadlift and squat and other lower...