@fromgenesistorevelation yep i have used dumbbells to elevate myself a little higher, works well but still get pain in the elbows. im pretty sure my lower traps are strong enough to get that depression, will keep trying.
@fromgenesistorevelation i find that a) my arms arent long enough for me to get into an l-sit on the floor, i can do it just fine using parallel bars, and also by elbows hurt quite a bit when im trying to do them on the floor, suggestions?