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@ladyestellarose This recipe does not result in starch water, and I like it mostly because it's the speediest seitan and I am lazy/busy: https://www.noracooks.com/vegan-chicken/

@noridetoolow I ended up just switching to olive oil for most purposes where I would have used butter pre-veganism. But there are plenty of vegan butters out there. Earth balance is one that I use for baking with success. Miyoko's is delicious but too expensive for every day use. I think all...