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@heavenlymetal Some aggressive water fasting would give him a temporary look closer to that picture in only a couple weeks. He wouldn’t have any of those hard oblique cuts or anything but he’d look pretty good. But yeah 12 weeks would be a very casual pace to get that bf% imo.

@olliegen Truthfully? like 60-90 days of good diet. You’re basically there bud you just need to shave some bf% off.