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@a87 I feel like this is the case as I feel extremely weak in the position and can't apply force downwards. However, I am really good at leg raises, I can do reps from hang all the way till my head. If I do not engage my lats I can swing lots of rep till waist.

@catholic4jesus Sorry I was referring to seated pike in my post. My standing pike is alright as I can touch my finger joints to the floor. Seated pike I cannot touch my feet.

@jermyn Already am. I can pike alright from a standing up position which the Jefferson has helped me achieve, however its not translating well into the seating position.

@fromgenesistorevelation I do jefferson curls and seated pike.

As the title suggests I struggle extremely with the seated pike position. Here's some information about me. Been training on and off for 10 years. As of right now, can do 10+ muscle ups, weighted pull up 20kg x 10, pull ups 20+, weighted dips 20kg x 10, handstand 10seconds, supported hand stand...

@hawke213x From my experience pushing failure has always resulted in the most growth and how I've broken through plateaus.