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@juancarlos Something else I wanted to post is that I really do enjoy the stuff you post. This isn't a bash against this community or the kettlebell itself. I just want to share what I've learned about this topic.

@hoanphamkhong1 Mark Cheng is literally a doctor of Chinese medicine and acupuncture. I kid you not. He charges like 1700 dollars for an hour skype session. LOL just because he came up with the four knots and has a good kallosthenos get up he's their hero. Another thing to ask yourself is...

@dawn16 Thank you for your response. I think what has happened in the kettlebell community, specifically StrongFirst, is that no one has told Pavel that he is wrong or misguided. His word is taken like the word of God. Their favorite quote if you second guess or question their methods is : “I...

@daxen From what I've been told : Return of the Kettlebell, the Russian Kettlebell Challenge, Power to the People (Russian Bear Program) specifically, Enter the Kettlebell past the 32kg unless you're a very large/strong man. The simple and sinister program is good until the simple standard and...

@juancarlos I've spent allot of money and time getting one on one conversations with most of the people mentioned and people who have been there. We discussed injuries, training philosophies, systems and why so many people seem to leave these organizations. It's not always due to money. I'm...

@moorelake7 This I will agree with. I was just watching his manmaker video on youtube and had to cringe on his form.

@dawn16 I get that. It's more so the fact that nobody takes responsibility or acknowledges that their former programs/programming may have caused people irreversible damage.

@dawn16 Then the victim blaming of 'if you get hurt' you did something wrong. Or maybe it's just poor programming?

@juancarlos I don't think kettlebell ballistics are all that great for longevity. Ballistic load is pretty risky and most kettlebells exercises use ballistics. It seems that many weight lifters/kettlebellers have transitioned to calisthenics in their later years. I've yet to see many original...