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@dawn16 1.5 hours of 7 exercises 5 sets each with normal break times, 1.5 hours treadmill walking. 3 exercises with 5 min break times 10 sets each. Etc etc many normal excuses for 3 hours

@johnc101 Either long rests which are fine or a lot of cardio which is fine but depends on what type. A 1.5 hour weights session with 1.5 hours walking on the treadmill is good.

@antwolf I mean, you could just post pics of yourself to prove your point

@cacacas "general populace" this means nothing. General populace of Nigeria? Japan? United States? France? Depends on which general populace you're looking at. And you're definitely not looking at the entire world because then the average person is shredded due to malnutrition.

@xamell 15% is "super lean"? having abs doesn't qualify as super lean, that's just the average healthy male.