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@nbj486 Genetics is the most important factor, this is why some people can sit on their ass their entire lives and have superior strength in the same weight and size class as someone who work hard for gains, i know people personally just like that, some people are born martial artists or lift...

@lovelivelaugh I'm one of those people who cannot get passed lean regardless of what i do, i can eat shit, do nothing but i still have my lean frame with great muscle definition lol, then again if i hardly eat and stay active i also don't lose any, it's like my body is programming it's...