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@bryher1980 More than some, but not all. Bjarne Riis was known in german athlete circles as „rollende Apotheke“. Rolling pharmacy. He had such bad athletic potential, compared to someone like Ullrich, that he had to push himself close to death with peds, to be able to compete. Another nickname...

@firsthandsemiuniversalist I argued about something like that over a decade ago on a basketball related message board. Told the guys that every single Tour de France cyclist was on pretty much every ped on the planet. Most of them were Texans, and they would deny, and defend Lance Armstrong to...