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@tom9831 However many reps it takes to achieve failure (=you literally are contracting as hard as you can't and cannot move the weight another millimeter)

@tom9831 One set. Once you achieve muscular failure, there's no need to do additional sets for that session, you've already fully signaled to the muscles that they need to rebuild. The whole idea of "three sets" came from a rehabilitation program for seriously injured patients, called the...

@mk009 Common misconception. Training to failure does NOT increase injury risk. It has absolutely no effect on injury prevalence. https://baye.com/poor-form-injuries/

@tom9831 Yes, it would. It would require him to go to complete muscular failure on each lift (example), though, something few people are capable or knowledgable enough to do at first (which is often why people add additional volume in to make up for it).

@kent1956 Hypothetically, let's say that someone could show that you'd get equivalent results in one fifth the time with two tweaks: - doing one set of each of your lifts to failure - training two days a week instead of four Is that something you'd be willing to try?

@brock The most important takeaway is near the bottom (and subject to much discussion on this subreddit): Yes, you technically don't need to train to failure. But almost everyone shockingly underestimates where failure means. So just train to failure, and you'll never be wrong.

@weepingwillow422 Can you clarify what your position is regarding failure (or "beyond" failure) and joint injuries?

@weepingwillow422 High intensity does not equal high risk of injury. Poor form causes injuries, not training to failure.

@heartnsoul19 This is what I do for slow single-set to failure training. I wrote this up so I could quickly explain the routine to friends interested in training this way: Row Squat Semi-sup chinups Press Assisted Dip Bench Curl Shrug SLDL Wrist extension Wrist curl Neck curl Neck extensions...