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@rogerstees Training to or close to failure is important for intermediates and up to achieve maximal mechanical tension.

@rogerstees I said training to failure is not important for beginners.

@rogerstees You could argue that training to failure is not important for beginners. Newbies can gain muscle without training close to failure. Instead they should focus on tempo and developing correct neuromuscular pathways.

@claudiabrinkmann1566 I didn't say you couldn't do sets of 20-25 for muscle growth. I literally supported your statement that fatigue is a factor when you do high reps.

@claudiabrinkmann1566 That's why you don't do reps for 15 LOL

@claudiabrinkmann1566 You shouldn't 1RM every time -- you need 5 reps due to the stimulating reps model. Speak for yourself. And it is up for debate.

@claudiabrinkmann1566 If volume = hypertrophy then do 30 reps instead of 15 lol. In reality, volume = mechanical tension. So even if you do 15 reps to "get those extra reps", those are fluffer reps. The only reps that count are the 5 reps at the end of a set.

@claudiabrinkmann1566 Can you explain why the calves grow better from higher reps? The data shows calves grow similarly with low rep and high rep schemes.

@blondie977 None of these exercises have good SFR. When you lean over for anything, you use erectors via isometric work. If you want to eliminate spinae erector involvement, just do seated cable-rows or dumbbell rows. Because you want to train your lats, not your erectors.

@jpeltier17 No, because the back has more muscles than just the lat and that's not a full back day LOL

@blondie977 You don't have to do a chest-supported row. If you do a cable row, you won't need to bend over because gravity is no longer a factor -- cables provide tension throughout the entire range of motion. You're also seated which provides further stability.

@firebird8080 No they're not