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@celticghirl The coaches at my first gym taught kipping first; my current gym only teaches kipping HSPUs to those who want to compete. Poor coaching is likely the reason you see this being so common.

@stthomaschristian Deadlifts do work your lower back, not just hams/glutes. It’s normal to get tired and sore there. If you lift with more of a Romanian Deadlift style you will work your lower back even more. That would explain why cleans don’t bother you since you start even lower and use even...

@stthomaschristian Do you get a sharp pain at some point during the lift or does just it get really sore and tired?