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@foundsheep Not entirely true, it is primarily produced by bacteria in the rumen (fermentation stomach) of ruminant animals like cows or sheep - but cobalt may be supplemented to ruminants to help them with this. However the majority of B12 supplements do go to animals, especially for...

@animusph We could also eat our own poop to get B12 like many herbivorous animals do, but I think I'd rather stick with supplements! Vitamin B12 and Nonhuman Animals – Vegan Health https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-and-nonhuman-animals/

@melesha12 So much misinformation around soy, it drives me nuts! And so much of it is driven by animal ag propaganda. Soy is actually a very healthy food, great protein content comparable to cow's milk etc.

@jryan1330 Friend said that to me. I said everything is chemical, so which vegan chemicals are you afraid of?

@%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%94 But is that due to the IGF-1 (which you would expect to see in higher protein consuming or resistance trained individuals, right?), or due to animal product consumption? Also from the paper (thanks for linking): Does soy protein affect circulating levels of unbound...

@eloquentspeaker14 Yeah so cheap! Are you now vegan/need any tips for going vegan?

@hannibal1994 Any reason you don't want to try vegan meats? There's so many great options like beyond, veggies sausages, veggie chick'n, etc. Tofu is great too, yeah you should adapt to it. Nuts seeds peanut butter soy milk etc is all great too.

@ctender01 But we don't have evidence linking high supplemental soy consumption with higher rates of cancer, right? That's the main concern with increased IGF-1 yeah? If anything evidence shows a decreased incidence of cancer with increased soy consumption...

@sandraovercomer Thanks for this. Great that you had that experience, but you should be aware that one anecdote is not really great evidence, and hardly a debunking. Still, I think the current obsession over protein is certainly a bit over the top.