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@lovelivelaugh i used to play alot of VB (2-3 days a week since i was 14 and when i was 16 5 times) and did some sort of home body workouts 3-4 times a week and i thought i ate alot but i was probably around 2k kcal haha. i weighted 64 kg on 184 cm back then. i pushed hard and got up to 86 kg...

@lovelivelaugh Im the first kinda guy too. Am not motivated to eat at all and couldnt stick to my meal plan (target 3700 lcal to gain) lm hovering between 2-2.5 k kcal now and dropped 6 kg lol

@cleann Im the same, Olive oil and milk gang