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@belovedsone Yeah I am definitely limited by muscular shoulder fatigue so far doing c+p, and my main goal is to improve pressing strength (with a few other minor goals that made me think Giant was a good fit). In my experience with barbells, pressing and pp benefit and carryover to each other...

@skye4him That's an interesting number to think about. So 10lbs lost is 20 seconds per mile so about 1 minute off a 5k, a little more than 4 off a half marathon and less than 10 minutes off of a marathon.

@belovedsone I just started the giant doing c&p. As for the benefits of one pressing movement over another, here are my thoughts. Assuming the same weight, the main difference would probably be shoulder fatigue. I would expect the number of completed reps to increase as one went from press, to...

@ms7dc "Very fat" is a subjective term. I'm pretty fat but ran a half marathon in reasonable time. Cardiovascular fitness is not necessarily a function of body fat percentage. Although your heart has to work harder to move a heavier body. I'm sure with equal fitness, my run times would increase...

@garyt My hot take: S&S is trash. Learn c&p. Do dfw for a cycle, then try giant. If you want.

@khohanguc Meh, so what? What's next, measuring hand/finger length and specifying the diameter of the handles? Length of the handle relative to length of forearms? It doesn't matter. Moving objects in the real world doesn't care about your body weight or proportions. S&S isn't a competition so...

@sweetcherryblossom I would do push presses or train dips if you have the access.

@rorypond Leading up to now: 531 either 4 or 3x/week templates and 4x/week conditioning, usually a calisthenic/kettlebell "metcon" Right now: 531 3x/week. Garmin half marathon program 4x/week. Sneak in a kettlebell "metcon" when I can. Near horizon: 531 2x/week, wrap up garmin half...

@learnandbloom Well I have one 85lb cast iron bell so I wouldn't actually be 2x40kg, just 2x85lb which doesn't sound nearly as cool in the kb community. Once I get the second one, I was thinking of just jumping right in, using push press. My thoughts is it would provide a good conditioning base...

@dawn16 Just giant and dfw. Got my eye on a few others but who knows where the training will go.

@shkana Saying they are overrated is not the same as saying they have no value. Some people in the kb community think that you have to do them. I don't think there would be a major fitness component lost by excluding them from an otherwise well balanced routine.

@cor1348 That's a lot of reps my guy!

My pictures didn't upload. For any interested. My first workout I got 14 sets of 5 for 70 reps, my PR Was 17 sets of 7 for 119 reps.

I recently finished a run of Geoff Neupert's "The Giant". I ran through the program with 2x32kg bells and completed 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2. Just wanted to share my experience! Background: I ran DFW 3 times in 2022, once with 2x24kg and twice with 2x32kg. My PR for press with 2x32 was 14 reps, but my...

@dixieriderxx Yeah there is a pretty significant jump between phases. I set the bell down between hands for sets of 9 reps or higher. By the end of phase 2 i could do the sets of 9 without rest between hands. I didnt continue to phase 3 or attempt KSK 2.0.

@starsatnight22 Pearl Harbor and Honolulu police both showed up. They checked out my vest and a couple guys had a good laugh. I had to make a statement and sign a waiver. The official statement I received was that the guard thought it was a drill. It was about a year later I told someone about...

@hopehannah Not even joking I was stopped at the Nimitz gate on Pearl Harbor by a gate guard because I was wearing a weight vest. I tried calling my Chief to explain why I was going to be late to muster and the guard drew their sidearm and started screaming for me to put the phone down. I...

@lbeebe48 Sounds cool! I ran a similar amalgamation over the summer. Day one was C&P/FS, day two was snatches, and day three was straight C&P. I enjoyed the variety. I did not analyze my data to see how much i improved over any of the days but it was a lot of fun. I did this on top a heavy (for...

@lily_pad_96 Probably because of their respective sports. In Olympic weightlifting, the bar is typically received in a full squat before the jerk, so clean, squat, then press is a bit more sport specific. Kb sport uses the "long cycle" where there is no squat, so the clean then press is more...

@m2j9 Awesome job! Great to hear a woman's results following the program. I wouldn't sweat the perceived lack of progress on press, it's still a 40% increase in reps at that weight! In my limited experience, increasing reps beyond a certain point at a given weight will require some specific...