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@dawn16 A little late to the party, and you're certainly entitled to your opinions. But I compete in a tested organization, and before that competed in NCAA D3 sports which are randomly drug tested as well.

@she2309 The amount of muscle lost in a large deficit is overhyped in my opinion so long as certain factors are maintained. With a supranormal level of protein (2.3-2.6g/kg) and maintenance of high intensity resistance training it is highly reduced.

@dawn16 I answered that in the comments above.

@redz16 Thanks again! Also, I wouldn't mind continuing the conversation about the different orgs. I've kicked around the idea of competing with a few different to test the waters. Fully understand each has it's own positives and negatives.

@remorsefulboy If you have any questions hit me up, I'd be more than happy to help.

@shopie Yeah lesson learned on the coaching aspect. If I want to take it to the next level I'll need the accountability.

@smm Go right ahead, I'll get to it as soon as possible. I'm currently replying in between sets, then have a few clients. So late tonight or tomorrow.

@coglig No time off yet. We are pushing another 8 weeks or so after my few days off. We want to use this time as a litmus test to see what it takes to get me where we want to be, before then reversing out. And good luck! Be sure to keep the sub updated. John is a good friend of mine and has...

@mssurrendered1 Smart approach taking the diet break. That combined with giving time to reverse into the show should offset any look of “over dieting.”

@nerfherder Starting stats are in the write up. 185lbs and 12% body fat. I don't have any real before pictures though.

@redwolf6 The second really. I am a very regimented person, so the constant fluctuations of carb cycling or hi/low days messes with my psyche. I'd rather choose something middle ground to the two.

@redwolf6 There was a point I added in scheduled refeeds when I would get ahead of my weekly weight goal. But due to the nature of the timeline there weren't many of those.

@dawn16 Unfortunately not, but it was pretty basic. One heavy barbell movement per muscle group in a pyramid style, with cable and machine accessories to round out.

@snowbird27 I increased over a mesocycle, however not in a strict manner. More so combining Mike Israetel's ideas with Jeff Albert's more organic approach. It turned into a bit of auto regulation, pushing on weeks I felt I could and deloading body part specific as I felt my recovery dwindle.

@jesusloveselonmusk Trying to enjoy it. No one talks about the psychological issues you face after a competition season (ie. I'm not making progress im just getting fat, should I mini cut, am I doing this right, I want to compete again, etc etc.). But overall my body fat is back to where it was...

@dawn16 Just about zero percent of natural competitors make a living from bodybuilding. I'm assuming he will continue working at his job lol?

(show day) (week 2 of prep for comparison) 24 y.o. 5'10" Starting Stats: 1/1/2019 194 lbs 14% BF (BIA) End Stats: 4/13/2019 (14 weeks) 167 lbs 7% BF (BIA) As the title implies, I competed in the OCB Uprising 2019 in Syracuse, NY this past weekend. I competed in the classic physique...

@programofficial Well first, it helps fight off any sickness or illness at the point where my immune system is at its weakest. Also it in this circumstance served as a diuretic. Tbh I probably wont do it to such an extreme this next time around.

@dawn16 Much appreciated!

@redwolf6 That's a first lol.