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@emm I see quite a few along with you are recommending that I alternate both, or at least create a strong base with C+P first, so I may just do that. I do own a pair of 24's, and one 28, but I have a while to go before I get another one to make a pair. I've even thought of making the high rep...

@mir2017lma I'm in between 1.0 and 1.1 this week, and sort of playing around with both versions to get a feel for it, but thought I would also ask here too. C+P seems to be more upper body oriented, you get the feel of a strength workout afterwards in the upper body. C+J definitely hits the...

I'd like to ask a question for those with a lot more experience/educational background than myself. I've been running the Giant 1.0 and finished up recently, about to start up 1.1 now, but I've noticed the programs creator Geoff Neupert said he made the program a C+P program because americans...

@garyt For Giant, it's already laid out, you have a choice between using bells that are your 5rm or 10rm. If you aren't really giving yourself any rest days, depending on what you're capable of I would say go with the 5rm for the 3.0. Again it boils down to your work capacity and recovery rate...

@stefanoseppie I too began my kb journey after 10 yrs. of doing bodyweight calisthenics, don't be fooled, you may think you're strong now but that funny looking ball of iron is very humbling. First off, there's a lot more you can do than swings and getups, there's goblet squats, clean and...

@bccoachwaelti I think it's up to you, based on the giant threads I've seen on the strongfirst forum a lot can depend on what your RPE was on week 4, were you going balls out with maximum effort? some people were going at their max with week 3 and making the 4th a deload week(either shorten the...

@mattellis It's also harder to move up in weight using C+P, I made much faster gains in weight doing grinds like double strict press, double front squats; exercises that are more akin to actual bodybuilding barbell exercises. 12 week muscle building program using progressively heavier weight...

@mattellis Hot take, I don't think kbs are the best for building show off muscles, that being said, you have gotten stronger in the last 6 mo. but you're still using light weight generally speaking. Different types of strength, you built muscles that are more 'go' than 'show'. I didn't really...

@hcwewvcw02 I think one of the major issues is the nature of the kettlebell, it's much easier to tack on weights and make jumps on barbells, but you don't have to stabilize barbells as much, with kbs the whole body needs to get stronger, everything from your grip, your core, everything. There's...

@vishalhost The question might get a better answer on: https://www.reddit.com/r/stkb/ or you can go straight to the man himself: @rabbie77

@roseprince Only problem is he says he's got singles and wants to avoid overhead work, most of Geoff's programs revolve around doubles and C+P.

@whitney5388 It's just programming, it isn't exclusive to kbs. If your pullups and dips are at a 5rm, then yeah, do 3.0. If you can do 8-10rm, try 1.0 with them.

@metalforchrist You don't see someone doing the challenge with that heavy a bell that often, impressive!

@professor I would say in the kettlebell world, pressing a 32kg or above is definitely considered 'strong'. But realistically speaking, pressing 20kg+ means you have at least a decent level of strength.

@lfedora This is great progress! You turned a 5rm into a 10 within 1 month twice in a row. As far as muscle goes, I didn't see a noticeable difference until I started using the 24's as a working weight.

@rabbie77 Just made that jump recently, feels like I did when I made the 20 to 24 jump, it was hard lol. Even that 4kg bump takes a while to get used to, I can't possibly imagine a 12kg jump.

@1008 Exactly, everything feels more balanced doing DFSQ, you hit all the bases.

@mightyrose Getting 60 reps on w1d2 with a 3rm is nuts, I don't know how you did it, you lifted your rm 20 times?!

@darienjames yeah, I've sort of come to the same conclusion myself, I just feel like I'm overworking the posterior chain when combining them. Squats seem to be a much better pair.

@mightyrose Those are great numbers for your 3.0, you sure that was your 5rm? I got about half that on my W1 numbers with my 5rm. You come off incredibly modest in your comments, but damn I hope I'm kicking ass like you are when I'm 57!