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@leeza Do use the crosspost feature. And don't change the title.

@andy0 Nor sure about both progressing but certainly you could include both in a program. But I think you'd still need to choose which one is the focus. The other can provide support and variety. E.g. focus on single but do light/volume day with doubles. Not sure how good an idea it might be...

@janie83 ROP does include a swing/snatch "finisher" on the C&P days, but one could just not do it.

@raykay Cool stuff! I am a bit surprised that there's a random website that has 1000+ people who do dumbbell clean & presses, as I've thought it is not a very common lift with dumbbells. How does Strength Level categorize people into various lifting levels?

@unstoppable1 Strongfirst forums has mentions of people getting the S&S audiobook but not sure anyone reviewed it from beginner's point of view. I'd get the book, it's also better for referencing and pictures are useful, and use the gift card for something else.

@joellemarie197 S&S is fine. Some people just dislike it. That doesn't mean everybody does. Dissatisfied people are louder than the satisfied people are.

@hoanphamkhong1 In hindsight I should not have mentioned Instagram. Oh well.

@charliehcf The StrongFirst lingo is "strong arm and stronger arm". Meaning no weak arm. Start with the one that is not the strongest. S&S is not a cardio circuit. Certainly you can do cardio circuit with at least swings, but S&S's point is strength and some aerobic training on the side...

@namelessempire87 The only follow-along I've done is Dan John's Tonic workout:

@bmag KB press is no different from any other press: it uses the anterior shoulder and your triceps. Depending on how wide you like to bench, which affects how much the pecs are doing, the overlap ranges from medium to lots.

@nunuzana It's clearly a "clever quip" that was taken too seriously.

@kkaye Cool, good to hear! Happy to help.

@dom_williams Now I am wondering what swear word is 4 letters and starts with a "d" and ends with a "b".

I was listening to Tim Ferriss' podcast with Peter Attia, who is very much into longevity, and he was talking about several matters that have connections to Pavel's and Dan John's work and kettlebells. How intra-abdominal pressure actually can lengthen the spine (or fight compression), which is...

@kkaye If you want to understand some basics of core training, do dead bugs. Once you can't keep your low back in contact with the floor, you are done and it may happen quickly in the beginning. Pullovers are not really a core lift. Sure, you need to have it engaged, but it is done with your...

@19disciple44 Kneesovertoesguy is doing a trap bar deadlift which is somewhere between a conventional deadlift and a squat. It's not about "knees going past toes". And for a regular kettlebell swing, it's not about whether it is okay that your knees go past the toes. A squat is a different...

@xrho I have to assume the formatting didn't come out the way you intended.

@curlysouffle You're welcome!

@curlysouffle The double snatch is the limiter in the Wolf and you should use the weight that you can double snatch for 5, or probably 8 reps. If you want, or need, to go off the program, maybe replace the double snatch with a push press or a jerk. But also, sometimes you are just not yet ready...

@ghackman You need to click reply under the comment to reply to it. Otherwise it can be difficult to know who you are talking to. So far there aren't too many comments but if there were, it'd be confusing.