Can you get this physique in 1 year or is this guy BSing me?

[zanyteen16]

@gypsyjill88 I mean that since you need to use more ingenuity to create increasing "weight" or challenge to the muscle, it requires more learning, and thus periods of making mistakes, pushing the "deadline" out further.

"Leave on the table" means here "how do you get enough down right as soon as possible that you are not, say, getting only 20% of what you could be over the same time (1 year) instead of 90%?"

 

[gypsyjill88]

@zanyteen16 Mate, I mean this with all due respect, but it doesn't sound like you understand what you are talking about. Increasing weight is not the bread and butter of progress in fitness. Intensity is the word you should focus on.

It doesnt matter if you use additional weights or just your bodyweight, the intensity of your training is what determines your progress (plus diet and outside factors etc).

I go to the gym almost everyday and would consider myself "advanced" at this point. I can easily workout for 120+ minutes and still have steam to go afterwards, which doesn't mean my workout is light, it is just that my body got very used to it, but then I go do circle training and find myself close to vomiting after 20 minutes.

Your approach to fitness should be holistic and not just focused on weights if you are in it for health and a better life.

If your goal is to just get big, that is another topic entirely. But I can tell you that if you do it for the girls, they don't like too much muscle usually and you will only get compliments by other men

And the thing about learning is, that it never stops. I have been working out for several years now and I am ALWAYS learning something new.

 

[zanyteen16]

@gypsyjill88 Sure, thanks. I am talking about getting to the same level as the person that I indicated, in the same time-frame (or close to it), and how to avoid losing too much time on that time-frame due to making mistakes or oversights with (for me) a novel method of training. Particularly, how do you increase the "intensity" in a pushup to get pecs as large as seen in the photo?

 

[gypsyjill88]

@zanyteen16 By doing different forms of pushups, try doing a pushup on one arm and tell me thats not fucking difficult to do

But let me give you some advice, making mistakes is a good thing, cause they are your best teacher in life. You will not avoid making mistakes, that is simply impossible.

You should not compare yourself to others, people have different starting conditions, different genetics etc. Focus on yourself and giving your best and stop thinking in timeframes. It takes the human body up to 10-12 years of consistent training to reach its phsyical limitation of how much lean muscle mass you can build. 12 years of consistency mate.

One year is really nothing and the dude in your picture is just a bit on the leaner side and went to the gym. It really is nothing special, you can achieve a lot more in that time actually.

But it all depends. But if you want to build real strength, calisthenics is in no way inferior to other ways of training.

 

[zanyteen16]

@gypsyjill88 Mistakes aren't the problem, wasting time is the problem. I'm sure that guy must have made mistakes too.

The point I'm after is how you limit the "budget" spent on mistakes to make the timeframe.

And the only reason I am wedded to it is he told me, I believe, about it taking the 1 year time frame when I asked what it took. And I am wedding to it because I don't want to just dismiss someone's advice disrespectfully.

 

[gypsyjill88]

@zanyteen16

The point I'm after is how you limit the "budget" spent on mistakes to make the timeframe.

Im gonna sound like a dick, but by being smart and doing your own research instead of asking strangers for advice. Most of the people I met in the gym world are talking out of their asses, me probably included. Only very few people I met I would trust enough to not double check their opinions.

I have an easier time because I am related to professional athletes and doctors, but I spent hundreds of hours actually researching my questions about fitness like I would research for academic work in university. Read into it yourself if you truly want to make as little mistakes as possible, cause otherwise you will always risk just following someones bullshit.

But I can promise you one thing. I got a intense program from a friend and started with it. That program demanded me to hit the gym 6 times a week: legs, chest/triceps, back/biceps, shoulder/neck/core, chest/back, biceps/triceps. That would be a week just for the strength training, I did cardio on the side and a daily 20 minute routine of exercises in the morning followed by stretching. I take two rest days and then repeat.

With that routine I promise no matter what you do, you are gonna look a lot better even than the dude in your foto. Everything else, all the knowledge etc comes by itself.

 

[zanyteen16]

@gypsyjill88 Sure, but "doing my own research" is itself a risk when I don't have knowledge of what needs to be researched and how do you actually spot the bullshit.

Also, should you "spend hundreds of hours" researching before even starting, or should you "research as you go", since as you say, the "knowledge comes by itself"? And thus cumulatively reach 100s of hours after a whole year of research and practice? And how do you know when you've done enough research to even start and/or how well you did it, given you have no grader, as in college?

Also, why are you giving a gym-based program when we're talking gym-free methods?

 

[dinafrancis]

@zanyteen16 Maybe.... Maybe not. Depends on where you're starting at. If you had an athletic background and starting from reasonably fit, maybe, but if you're overweight (or even extremely skinny fat), untrained and sedentary... You'd need more than a year.

No harm in trying if that's your question

 

[ralphp]

@zanyteen16 For sure man. Just watch your diet, intake lots of protein and work-out. I found focusing on negatives helped build muscle faster.

 

[theblackcat]

@zanyteen16 Lift weights consistently with a proper program

Eat enough protein

Get 8 hours sleep a night

After a year of this you will be a different person.

 

[gthomas]

@zanyteen16 130 hours in the gym plus a good diet

 

[cfitz]

@zanyteen16 Yes. Very possible. I did that when I was 17. Doesn't look at impressive to me. However, I didn't have issues of alcohol and anxiety or drugs. Aldi it took me about two years to get where I was happy with my progress.

Bottom line is that nobody can predict where you will end up. Just start working out with a program, watching your diet and stay consistent. Make it a way of life.

 

[zanyteen16]

@cfitz It took 2 years so how do you do it in just 1?

 

[cfitz]

@zanyteen16 What I did in 2 years took me 2 years. At 1 year, I was better than he was. By 2 years, I was even better. But my chest has always responded well. Also my progress will not be your progress. Everyone will have a different progress. My weak point has always been my biceps. That guy's biceps seem to lag behind also.

Why do you need to achieve a specific goal in 1 year? As long as you keep making gains year after year, that is all that matters.

 

[zanyteen16]

@cfitz Because he told me it "was possible". And I don't want to just be unfair by blowing that off without investigating first, and definitely don't want to leave anything off the table due to being ignorant of some key piece of knowledge.

 

[cfitz]

@zanyteen16 I think you are overthinking things. He said "it is possible." I agree he is correct. Did he say he could guarantee you will get the same results in a year? What happens if you don't get the same results in a year? What's happens if you do better and get better results on a year? Will that change you life or his life differently?

Just look at the wiki on this sub and read about diet and programs and start going to the gym this week. Follow a program from from the wiki from those who know more than me and you.

 

[cfitz]

@zanyteen16 Since you cannot go the gym, then go to the wiki and look up the body weight fitness program. Or go to r/bodyweightfitness. A son made decent gains with that on 6 months.