@ckth yeah i got 100 servings of creatine, 167 servings of beta alanine and (i can’t remember the size but a similar amount) of L citrulline for like $30 a while ago on amazon
@ckth Way way way way wayyyyyyyyy cheaper. Most pre workouts have 10+ ingredients and cost $30-60 for a 20-30 day supply. I can buy every ingredient to a pre workout from a bulk store and build it for a fraction less. Then I grt to control dosages of ingredients. Or take out ones I don't like even.
@ckth mainstream pres don’t have fillers and you are paying for QA, as a single individual you absolutely have the potential to mix up your ingredients and potentially harm yourself. purchasing pre workout from reputable companies will ensure that doesn’t happen.
@gwrichardson Let’s be honest: Supplement with 200 mg of coffeine 20 mins before you train and you will have 97 % of the desired effects.
Better than a complicated pre workout is in my opinion 10-20 g of EAA and 20-30 g of maltodextrine during your workout. It gives me and my wife noticeably more drive towards the end of the workout – and it’s John Meadows approved.
@gwrichardson why NALT over regular tyrosine? i think regular is more effective unless you care about water solubility. also 9g of citrulline or 9g with malate
@gwrichardson The benefits of beta-alanine have been incredibly overrated, as well as pretty much unachievable through a pre workout dose. Similar to creatine, You would have to supplement with it daily to reap its effects
Unless you’re a masochist and actually like the itch, it’s really not worth it imo.
@gwrichardson Fully natty:
- 2-3 double espressos, 8 grams of citrulline malate, 6 grams of beta alanine, half a tsb of salt. Drink OJ during the workout.
Still natty but will get some downvotes:
- same thing but sub 5mg of tadalafil (cialis) for the citrulline