@gwrichardson I went down this rabbit hole years ago with a stack similar to yours. Iirc you need more beetroot powder to have any substantial effect. Maybe sub that for agmatine sulfate unless you want to be pounding beetroot powder like crazy. Maybe even consider intra workout EEA's and some carbs pre instead of this chemical cocktail.
Nowadays it's just coffee, and a light breakfast of berries and about 30-40g of carbs with a pinch of salt. Does more for me than anything else.
@overcoming1 If you mean coffee then.... coffee is more than a drink in many ways in that it has social meaning and rituals associated with it (we say "let's for get coffee") .
So a lot of people pick up coffee that way regardless of taste (or despite a bitter taste). And then it carries over for the mental benefits from the caffeine into our daily lives.
Also, a long time ago, before the industrial age we just didn't have a lot of palatable foods so something like coffee with a splash of milk or honey would have been pretty tasty and soothing
@mstyle00 no no i meant like taking caffine before workouts, we don't need any reason to drink coffe i drink every morning i just don't like threat it like something u should take before workouts.
@overcoming1 I’m not a morning lifter but it’s way less crowded then obviously and people with work/kids usually have an easier time fitting in workouts early morning
@overcoming1 Honestly, it works for me. I jog about 2 miles to the gym and back a few days a week, so It really helps me keep my energy level up over the course of the ~2.5-3 hour workout.
@catlover88 ya, was doing the same for forever. citrulline helped me get over a plateau, now at a brick wall. looking for a little oomph to help me out after work