2023 NoBull CrossFit Games IE 1 - Ride Discussion Thread

[jonjones229]

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It's time to kickoff the 2023 NoBull CrossFit Games! Individual event 1 will have a whole load of biking to get us going? Who will take the top spot early on? Will the bikes hold up better than the past? Tune in to find out!

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Individual Event 1 - Ride​

Women's Start Time: 8:30am CT / 9:30am ET / 5:30am PT / 2:30pm CET / 3:30pm UTC

Men's Start Time: 9:30am CT / 10:30am ET / 7:30am PT / 3:30pm CET / 2:30pm UTC

Complete as many laps as possible in 40 minutes.

 

[catmomma]

@jonjones229 Does anyone know what the deal was with Emmy Carey? It looked like she never rode a bike before. Certainly, she should have anticipated that there was a decent chance there'd be a bike event.

 

[dawn16]

@catmomma She crashed on the second turn, right in front of my wife and I, and looked off when she got back up. Either hurt, or it just messed with her mentally. Seemed kind of checked out after that.

 

[akingbade]

@jonjones229 Unrelated, but I would shit my pants if I’m Emily Rolfe and I’m used to free healthcare (Canadian) but a freak health event causes me to have major surgery in the US lol

 

[2die]

@akingbade Every Canadian athlete will have bought Health Insurance for their visit to the US.
But wouldn't CroasFit also have insurance coverage for its athletes?

 

[nikti]

@akingbade You should usually get health insurance before visiting another country. Especially, if you are an athlete and/or engaging in potentially high-risk behavior while abroad.

By the way, Canada doesn't pay for medical care or hospital stays for visitors either.

 

[akingbade]

@nikti My comment didn’t insinuate that me as an American would be able to get free Canadian healthcare. My comment is that American healthcare is wildly expensive, even with insurance the copays alone could decimate people financially.

 

[nikti]

@akingbade You know, Canadian healthcare isn't "free" (funded through various taxes) and most Canadians have private health insurance.

 

[snowballsfriend]

@nikti Ya but that covers things like massages, dental, physio, etc. Depending on your province, it's not for public hospital visits unless the hospital charges for and the plan covers an upgraded room.

 

[nikti]

@snowballsfriend ...and vision, private hospital rooms, outpatient medicines, and even private insurance (only) specialists, and the list of private insurance benefits seem to be getting longer each year.

 

[snowballsfriend]

@nikti Yes, this was covered in saying etc, upgraded rooms and public hospital visits unless of course the private specialist has an office in the hospital.

All this is dependent on the province as well.

 

[nikti]

@snowballsfriend I don't think your average US resident (like the OP) realizes what is and isn't covered in "free" Canadian healthcare which is why I expanded your "etc.".

Many elements of mental care are also in the domain of private insurance.

 

[snowballsfriend]

@nikti As long as its understood that what we get for free (99% of your hospital visit most likely covered) via the Canadian healthcare system without paying extra, I think the Americans will get it.

 

[nikti]

@snowballsfriend It still isn't free, do you understand how much of the taxes are going to your free healthcare? The current official government numbers show the average Canadian making 60k per year pays about 7k a year in taxes that specifically go to their healthcare. That is considerably more than what a US resident making similar wages pays for single-person insurance coverage which then covers many things that Canadians pay extra for via private insurance and/or out-of-pocket.

In the US, if you are uninsured and don't have any income, you get the care you need and the hospital writes it off. No insurance, but with a way to repay? The hospital gives you an 80% discount, which admittedly, could still be a very expensive bill, and basically forever to pay it back. Insured? A copay (usually less than $100 for emergency service) and an out-of-pocket maximum that ranges from 1k to 10k per calendar year.

So, in the US, you are likely going to pay more than a Canadian for a single procedure at the time of service, but over the course of your life, including all insurance (taxes) premiums and copays, Canadian health care is probably just a little more expensive than the equivalent US health care. Then there is end-of-life care and what Canadian healthcare does and doesn't pay for... but that goes beyond the scope of this discussion.

edit to add: In the US you are able to deduct all medical expenses (including some insurance premiums) from your income for tax purposes if it exceeds a certain percentage of your income.

 

[fhaoipteh]

@akingbade Tbh, probably better it happened in the states. She'd likely still be on the waiting list in Canada

 

[akingbade]

@fhaoipteh LMAOO that’s some weird right thing stuff. Emergency procedures do happen in countries with universal healthcare lol

 

[hallbee66]

@akingbade As a Finn I did laugh at this. They’ve got a point.

 

[djung]

@jonjones229 I'm sure all the athletes want to win, a first place finish is a mental victory, and points are points, but in a pre-cut event with place-based scoring, finishing ~3-7 and the energy savings that comes with it isn't a bad strategy esp if you get beat by a "specialist". You only lose ~9-20 points vs. a win vs. ~15-35 in a post-cut event. Performance-based scoring, different story.

 

[bnorrism]

@jonjones229 Listening to a live recap from barbell spins YouTube channel -

One of the guys confirmed that Justin actually fell on his bike a couple of times which is what put him so far back in the pack.

 

[hallbee66]

@bnorrism How did he fall?