@berk Mentzers training methods were different than the other guys where he focused more on weight than reps. Modern bodybuilding training methods stem from mentzers methods right? Also Mentzer should've won mr olympia but Arnolds friends were the judges. Even tom platz recognises that. Mentzer had about the same muscle mass as Arnold. Idk why I expected people from bodyweightfitness to know anything about bodybuilding ngl. Also steroids dont mean he didnt work hard