@neverbeenalone Jeff nippard just dropped a science based video for maximum hypertrophy, and its total opposite from dr mikes teachings. Science on muscle growth is weird.
Stretched Pause and slow negative
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simplyme2991
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@hone This isn't true from what I have watched of Jeff. He and Dr. Mike collaborate quite a bit now and seem to share similar philosophies. Jeff also emphasizes a deep stretch and when he does tier lists of different exercises, those that offer the most ROM and deepest stretch are the ones that get his highest recommendations. He seems to prefer cable exercises a bit more than Mike because it offers resistance equally throughout the movement as opposed to some free weight exercises, but I think Mike has acknowledged this as a benefit of cable exercises as well.
@neverbeenalone Nic Walker was pausing his RDLs in the stretched position lately, worked out great for him.
@mrbrain You show me where he said “I hurt myself by hitting the full range of motion on RDL’s” you’re just lying to try and prove a mute point. It can’t have been the incredibly depleted, compromised and dehydrated state he was in pre-comp.
Half the RP ream are IFBB pros you dork. Even Mike came 2nd at National Masters.
Edit: He blocked me after making the below comment then sent some wild homophobic slurs in the DM’s
this dude ain’t stable.
He’s also been wrong about nearly everything he’s said in this thread.
Half the RP ream are IFBB pros you dork. Even Mike came 2nd at National Masters.
Edit: He blocked me after making the below comment then sent some wild homophobic slurs in the DM’s
this dude ain’t stable.He’s also been wrong about nearly everything he’s said in this thread.
@wwjosh19 Since you've opened the door to making this personal, I'll just point out you've said you bulked from 127lb to 224lb. So let's charitably say you've gained 20lb of muscle from that.
You are now walking around with well over 70lb of excess bodyfat. Which puts you at around 40% bodyfat, and that's me being charitable to your muscle gain.
I don't think your accomplishments justify such strong opinions. I would suggest the reason why you're so passionate about defending your position is because you're insecure about your physique and method. You're coping.
You are now walking around with well over 70lb of excess bodyfat. Which puts you at around 40% bodyfat, and that's me being charitable to your muscle gain.
I don't think your accomplishments justify such strong opinions. I would suggest the reason why you're so passionate about defending your position is because you're insecure about your physique and method. You're coping.
alexandria281
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@neverbeenalone I feel like both work equally well. However, Mike's way is more joint friendly usually.
@neverbeenalone Dr mike uses steroids.
gardener6359
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@gardener6359 I will not take advice from drug users.
gardener6359
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@elliep78 Evidence? Then we should follow Ronie's advice. And haneys, they are the most successful bodybuilders. Dr mike is a youtube star.
Remind me again, how many champions did he train?
If you want to fallow great trainers, follow Hany Rambod, the coach of champions. Dr mike even had the audacity to criticize his way of training.
But, i guess, good youtube creators have their followers.
Remind me again, how many champions did he train?
If you want to fallow great trainers, follow Hany Rambod, the coach of champions. Dr mike even had the audacity to criticize his way of training.
But, i guess, good youtube creators have their followers.
@hone "What is the proof that dr mike is one of those people?"
Jesus Christ, what do you think? You would read the literature to see whether or not the advice conforms to the greatest body of evidence. Over time, consistently accurate representations of our current understanding of hypertrophy yield a greater confidence in the person conveying the information.
Also, I have never mentioned Dr. Mike. I'm explaining to you that the quality of advice is not influenced by the potential drug use of the person giving it.
Jesus Christ, what do you think? You would read the literature to see whether or not the advice conforms to the greatest body of evidence. Over time, consistently accurate representations of our current understanding of hypertrophy yield a greater confidence in the person conveying the information.
Also, I have never mentioned Dr. Mike. I'm explaining to you that the quality of advice is not influenced by the potential drug use of the person giving it.
@elliep78 So, i can just read the literature, why do i need dr mike? What you said is just stupid.
Anyway, we can best understand hypertrophy by looking and champions, and what is the same for all of them is that they trained very hard. Arnold and Cutler with volume, Yates with training to failure, Coleman with training very heavy. Everything works, just put in the work. Get stronger over time and that is it.
And, please, stop praising youtubers.
Anyway, we can best understand hypertrophy by looking and champions, and what is the same for all of them is that they trained very hard. Arnold and Cutler with volume, Yates with training to failure, Coleman with training very heavy. Everything works, just put in the work. Get stronger over time and that is it.
And, please, stop praising youtubers.
@hone "So, i can just read the litterature, why do i need dr mike? What you just said is stupid."
Do you have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old? As I already described, when the advice over time consistently conforms to the current body of evidence, our trust in the person conveying it increases.
If I lend an acquaintance money for the first time, I might be a bit sceptical of the probability that i will eventually get my money returned. As such, to mitigate risk, I make him sign a contract and impose interest payments on the amount. Over time, if the acquaintance consistently pays me back on time, my risk model changes. The next time he asks to borrow money, I'm willing to agree to a less restrictive contract, with a lower percentage accruing interest. Do you understand the analogy?
"Anyway, we can best understand hyperthropy by looking and (read: at?) champions"
No, we can best understand hyperthropy by reading the scientific literature.
"And, please, stop praising youtubers."
I'm not currently praising anyone, I'm explaining something rather simple to you - though it's suprisingly difficult for you to understand.
Do you have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old? As I already described, when the advice over time consistently conforms to the current body of evidence, our trust in the person conveying it increases.
If I lend an acquaintance money for the first time, I might be a bit sceptical of the probability that i will eventually get my money returned. As such, to mitigate risk, I make him sign a contract and impose interest payments on the amount. Over time, if the acquaintance consistently pays me back on time, my risk model changes. The next time he asks to borrow money, I'm willing to agree to a less restrictive contract, with a lower percentage accruing interest. Do you understand the analogy?
"Anyway, we can best understand hyperthropy by looking and (read: at?) champions"
No, we can best understand hyperthropy by reading the scientific literature.
"And, please, stop praising youtubers."
I'm not currently praising anyone, I'm explaining something rather simple to you - though it's suprisingly difficult for you to understand.
@hone He uses steroids and he's never been in shape.
Let's get it right. No one in the greater bodybuilding community takes him seriously because guess what? He's never been in shape.
Never coached anyone who's ever been in shape. Helped Nic Walker out recently and guess what, Nic snapped his shit up.
Talk all your shit but get in shape first. Coach someone who's achieved something significant.
Edit - Downvote me all you like but these are the facts.
Let's get it right. No one in the greater bodybuilding community takes him seriously because guess what? He's never been in shape.
Never coached anyone who's ever been in shape. Helped Nic Walker out recently and guess what, Nic snapped his shit up.
Talk all your shit but get in shape first. Coach someone who's achieved something significant.
Edit - Downvote me all you like but these are the facts.