@bibbigo The Iron Cross has always been an egotistical gymnast power move. I have worked with gymnasts who have told me that that the Iron cross is NOT worth the risks and degradation of the shoulder capsule and glenohumeral joint.
That move has resulted in a high percentage of shoulder surgeries of elite level gymnasts and ring specialists.
It is not a natural movement. Most body weight fitness is safe, when we are primarily doing natural movements. Obviously it is cool and fun to push ourselves to limits previously unachievable, but you never do so without risk.
EDIT: This statement seems to have really triggered some people. It is worth emphasizing that some people may never have issues with the iron cross, especially gymnasts who have trained their entire life doing them. NONETHELESS, they are definitely 100% dangerous on the shoulder joints, and cause a breakdown in the connective tissue. MORE so than deadlifts, squats, running fast, planches etc.
Planches do not put any where near the amount of sheer tension on the shoulder joint than an Iron cross does.
Most people that frequent this subreddit are bodyweight fitness generalists, NOT specialists like gymnastic professionals. An iron cross for generalists is 100% an egotistical power move, just to say "they can do it, or hold it for x seconds". I'm standing firm by my notion that it is NOT worth the wear and tear it does to the shoulder joint.
That move has resulted in a high percentage of shoulder surgeries of elite level gymnasts and ring specialists.
It is not a natural movement. Most body weight fitness is safe, when we are primarily doing natural movements. Obviously it is cool and fun to push ourselves to limits previously unachievable, but you never do so without risk.
EDIT: This statement seems to have really triggered some people. It is worth emphasizing that some people may never have issues with the iron cross, especially gymnasts who have trained their entire life doing them. NONETHELESS, they are definitely 100% dangerous on the shoulder joints, and cause a breakdown in the connective tissue. MORE so than deadlifts, squats, running fast, planches etc.
Planches do not put any where near the amount of sheer tension on the shoulder joint than an Iron cross does.
Most people that frequent this subreddit are bodyweight fitness generalists, NOT specialists like gymnastic professionals. An iron cross for generalists is 100% an egotistical power move, just to say "they can do it, or hold it for x seconds". I'm standing firm by my notion that it is NOT worth the wear and tear it does to the shoulder joint.