@dawn16 Ok so you’re initial comment is very oddly worded almost had me questioning if English was first language. But okay yea makes sense three years of steady gains and proper regimen adaptation. If you diet was on point up until now you’d probably be getting a few years out from genetic limits. Regardless it’s clear your an intermediate if not advanced lifter. Especially when someone drops mind muscle you know they’ve put in the years. Takes dudes forever to realize turning off your brain and exerting is suboptimal training form even if everything looks right. As progress slow for veteran lifters and get more plateaus you see experienced lifters learn to pay attention to grip and deep form and the feeling of muscle pull and exertion where it’s supposed to be. Blindly rowing 80s is probably just as effective as mind muscle reps with 50 lbs. after I learned mind muscle I finally got my back to explode since I had spent years over building biceps and they were killing my back training by compensating and as a younger lifter you think as long as you’re moving weight with okay form it’s good enough and big dudes talking about form are just showing off.