@lawforchrist You legit stated “I was part of the bottom of the barrel that was scraped to create a poll.” And then you went on to say “why were those three not included”, which infers they have more to offer. In every way that is exactly what you said. And then you prove your point stating I’m toxic without saying why. Your turn.
@lawforchrist I don’t normally get involved in these unnecessarily argumentative posts but could not help myself after reading some of these comments. First off, it’s a poll- everyone just needs to calm down. It’s fun, it’s interactive, it’s a nice idea and it’s cool to see what happens at the end of the season. Not sure why this has suddenly become a negative thing.
Second- you call Hiller toxic and divisive but you literally shat on everyone on that list simply because of your perception of one or two people on that list and called them ‘bottom of the barrel’. If you deem what Hiller does as toxic, what do you call this then?
Your personal dislike towards someone seems to cloud your view on how well-versed/competent they are in their knowledge of CF or CF Games. Plus, as I said- it’s supposed to be a fun and engaging thing. No need to bring in any negativity into this.
@jmb1990 I said it'd be nice to have reputable names on that list, as in they have a reputation for being knowledgeable about the sport. As many other comments on this post state, nobody knows who most of those people are. They are not reputable names. They are also not media personalities or analysts like the article claims them to be.
Hiller is toxic and divisive and he will tell you that himself. He has admitted it plenty of times because controversial content is what gets clicks/makes money and he doesn't care that he's putting out garbage or how his content affects the greater community. You can see that in his reply to my original comment.
I do not care how much Hiller - or Sevan for that matter - knows about the sport of crossfit. They draw vastly more negative attention than positive and give this sport a bad name purely for the sake of profit.
And for the record: calling out toxicity is necessary to keeping a peaceful and respectful space. The paradox of tolerance.
@lawforchrist I know everyone on the list other than 2 people and I am not some unicorn with superior CF knowledge, I just follow/listen/watch content and keep up to date. You listed Sporty Beth and Nate as alternatives- you think they are ‘actual’ media personalities/analysts (and ‘reputable’) and Chase and Sevan are not?
You are also factually incorrect- Watkins and Schroeder are analysts- like their literal day job involves stats & analytics at a high level as well as what they do in CF space. And if I am not mistaken, Schroeder actually works for CF Games as an analyst/statistician. What else should one do for you to regard them as ‘analysts’?
Won’t bother trying to convince you to respect the work Sevan/Hiller have done in the space (especially Sevan) regardless of what you see them as people- you seem to have made up your mind and don’t come across open-minded. And please- paradox of tolerance goes if you call him toxic, not when you call him and everyone on the list ‘bottom of the barrel’.
@leonsoekjesus Brian Friend does his own rankings. It would be strange for someone to ask someone who does their own rankings to be involved in a rankings. I wouldn’t read into it beyond that
@leonsoekjesus I have zero info on that, but there's a chance that big media entities/experts did not want to participate in an initiative by some other entity.
I certainly would like to have Friend and someone from Talking Elite Fitness included, plus more non US personalities.
@tennesseegirl1993 Good point! I know Peter is not (I don't know why they don't use proper names):
"Coffee, Pods and Wods is a podcast centred on conversations with coaches, athletes and creatives in CrossFit to shine a light on those that deserve it.
Peter White, the host, is a teacher from Ireland, "