@jacob2848 I assume they're going for a creamy broth, but using the instant stuff rather than a real tonkatsu, so adding the easiest thing to make it creamier but not too much saltier.
@shieldofangels I am vegan too! and when I tried to add more "protein" in my diet - I could never find any reasonable examples. They would be just eat oatmeal and chia seeds for breakfast and the calories would be 600 calories and 20 grams of protein.
@shieldofangels Yes! Until maybe a year ago - never tracked protein - and when I did - was surprised I wasn't even meeting US RDA levels. This is not surprising as a vegan as most vegan cookbooks for example- may not even have any tofu recipes or show a "balanced plate".
Finally found some fitness ladies on IG who are vegan and have high-protein recipes with moderate calorie amounts...hope that eating higher levels of protein will help me to maintain my weight and muscle.
@ajung I’m vegan as well and it’s sad how many vegan influencers promote low protein vegan diets. Soy milk, protein powder, tofu, mock meats, TVP, seitan is the way to go
@maggiechristianforumsdeng Don't go on the WFPB subreddit. They actively discourage protein consumption! I am now 54 years old- was always an active exerciser. I really regret undereating on protein- I wonder if would have had more muscles etc.!
Another annoying thing about these vegan influencers- they are usually endurance athletes who likely have high maintenance calories so of course they can get their protein on beans and rice -- but I can't...just very misleading.
@ajung Yes you are so correct. The demonizing of mock meats needs to stop. They’re a great source of protein with no saturated fat or cholesterol. Just because something is processed doesn’t mean it’s unhealthy. WFPB dieters demonize great meat substitutes and protein then wonder why so many people fail a vegan diet. It’s sad.
@maggiechristianforumsdeng Yes! And so phobic about oil! My partner who is/was on the WFPB diet- was fearful of eating some purchased seitan with barely any vegetable oil.
Personally, I don't think the WFPB diet influencers like Mc Dougal and Fuhrman get enough criticism with their misinformation.
@shieldofangels I don’t know. It gets kind of expensive to eat a lot and you have to spend a lot of time making and eating food. Especially if you don’t want to be eating pure junk. Like it’s really easy to meet those calorie needs on soda, candy, and sweets like cookies, because those are very caloric foods, but that’s obviously unhealthy. Meeting those needs on healthy fats and proteins, veggies, and whole grains and stuff is HARD.
My two most active years recently I burned an average of 989 and 979 calories from activity a day, for an average of 2578 and 2568 calories total a day, and I felt like I had to eat and go to the grocery store all the damn time. I’d have to multitask to eat and fell asleep eating often, only to have to eat the cold stale plate when I woke up later because I needed the calories and to not waste food with how much I was spending on it.
@shieldofangels As little as we are, we do save a lot of money on food. At 5’2 115 pounds I only need around 1500-1700 to maintain my weight and 1200-1300 to lose weight. These men’s grocery bills are probably twice as expensive as a petite woman’s. It may suck that we cannot indulge like these men but we do save a lot of money.
