West Coast Classic Live Semi-Final Day Two Discussion Thread

[jkeith]

@faithfullyfit Exactly, also that ruck run a few hours earlier.

 

[cassandra23]

@dereklirus I certainly don’t consider myself elite. And I’m usually embarrassed for myself when I let my cal/hour dip below 1000. So to be there at this level.

Granted if you watch…there’s a LOT of real shitty rowing form even amongst some of these elites.

 

[little_sparrow]

@cassandra23 I think if you do enough CF, I think yo'll almost find that there's a way to 'game' rowing for cals within a CF metcon. you do CF long enough you can almost figure out how to make your rowing like more lower back dominant vs. more quad dominant, and use that depending on the workout.

also, cals rewards higher stroke rates overall, so if you can almost maintain higher stroke rates, stay loose - this could be better than trying to maintain stiffness and drive hard like 'true rowing' technique would involve.

again, the fact that it's 'rowing' shouldn't blind people to the fact that technique can be very different. this isn't to suggest that good technique isn't important - everything begins with good technique - but you can't assess elite athletes without considering the context of their movements.

it's like doing 75 power snatches @ 75# for time you will use very 'bad' weightlifting technique but it's essential if you want a fast good time. different sports overall.

 

[cassandra23]

@little_sparrow Yeah but there’s, “oh they’re doing that to just be faster” and “holy shit that’s atrocious and probably slowing them down”

Like when the seat is hitting their heels everytime they go forward, and they’re pulling the handle to their neck, it’s not helping them knock off cals any faster and if anything is slowing them way down.

We’ve seen it with other elites in other movements(Brooke wells in literally anything overhead?) where it’ll get written off as eh, they’re elite. They’re fast in spite of it. Why fix it.

Meanwhile if you listen to Fraser talking today when he was commentating. That’s why he was so fucking good. You clean up that row and pick up a few seconds. You clean up your transitions and pick up a few seconds. Etc etc and before you know it you’re 30 seconds or a minute faster without actually being anymore fit.

 

[dereklirus]

@little_sparrow (For guys) You can row at well under 25s/m and easily hold 1500+ cals pace if you are efficient and powerful with your pull. You’ll need to row at a higher rate if your technique is shit and you aren’t generating watts on your pulls. The people who have good technique + capacity are the ones well above 2000 cals pace and like 30+ s/m